marlon2006
06-22 11:58 AM
I agree with you. No questions about it. I think there are two components on legal immigration alone:
1. People who are stuck in the queue for many years
2. Increase in visa numbers for future skilled workers
At minimum, number 1) above should be fixed out of fairness. We already went through the painful labor certification process. That's unrelated to market demand or not.
I agree, we haven't had a chance to put that clear message out there.
This myth has never been successfully countered in the media or any other PR or lobbying channel by the legal immigration crowd.
The standard line amounts to this:
We are highly skilled we are legal and we are stuck and dont deserve this.
This is not good PR. Nobody cares about this.. it will get us nowhere..
We need to have a standard message apart from all other humint crap..
1) legals cannot undercut US jobseekers because of strict labor laws. Employers are paying a premium in wages as well as legal fees to retain their legal alien workforce. IT would be foolhardy of them to go through the hassle if local talent was easily available.
2) legals are in most cases paying taxes for which they may never realize the benifits like social security.
We need to let it be known in a firm polite manner that
1) we are giving more than we are getting and are not free loaders
2) we are not harming or displacing anyone.
I dont think this can be perceived as tryng to distance ourselves from undocumented workers. There are rare moments when the media does focus on legal immigrants as a group lets make the most of it.
1. People who are stuck in the queue for many years
2. Increase in visa numbers for future skilled workers
At minimum, number 1) above should be fixed out of fairness. We already went through the painful labor certification process. That's unrelated to market demand or not.
I agree, we haven't had a chance to put that clear message out there.
This myth has never been successfully countered in the media or any other PR or lobbying channel by the legal immigration crowd.
The standard line amounts to this:
We are highly skilled we are legal and we are stuck and dont deserve this.
This is not good PR. Nobody cares about this.. it will get us nowhere..
We need to have a standard message apart from all other humint crap..
1) legals cannot undercut US jobseekers because of strict labor laws. Employers are paying a premium in wages as well as legal fees to retain their legal alien workforce. IT would be foolhardy of them to go through the hassle if local talent was easily available.
2) legals are in most cases paying taxes for which they may never realize the benifits like social security.
We need to let it be known in a firm polite manner that
1) we are giving more than we are getting and are not free loaders
2) we are not harming or displacing anyone.
I dont think this can be perceived as tryng to distance ourselves from undocumented workers. There are rare moments when the media does focus on legal immigrants as a group lets make the most of it.
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english_august
07-09 04:53 PM
Sent the press release to local news stations in KY state. If they are interested in the story i will ask them to contact IV for more information.
maine_gc - don't just refer them to IV. Interest is primarily ours, so we have to be dogged about pursuing it. Call someone, talk to them and be persistent in conveying our issues.
maine_gc - don't just refer them to IV. Interest is primarily ours, so we have to be dogged about pursuing it. Call someone, talk to them and be persistent in conveying our issues.
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11-18 11:13 AM
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12-26 02:04 PM
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If its TSC then I do not think it will help at all. Whenever I talk to IO their only response if they are waiting for availability at local ASC.
So TSC people are out of luck.
If its TSC then I do not think it will help at all. Whenever I talk to IO their only response if they are waiting for availability at local ASC.
So TSC people are out of luck.
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arunmohan
05-08 03:26 PM
Please some one has take a lead. I know a very good attorney i.e. Visanow.com. We should try to contact them and find out what are possibility we have to remove the country cap.
some of EB3 folks formed a group to fight for this but EB2 did not participate because they were thinking that they will get their GC sooner or later.
This is a time to fight together.
some of EB3 folks formed a group to fight for this but EB2 did not participate because they were thinking that they will get their GC sooner or later.
This is a time to fight together.
Jimi_Hendrix
10-16 01:14 PM
The immigration debate for legal immigrants and illegal immigrants with substantial presence in the USA has been raging for 2 years now. Reforms consistently went through Senate but got stuck in the house. Last year has been most painful and has brought matters to a tipping point. Therefore, I conclude that after the elections things have to settle down - this matter cannot be up in the air any longer. Either we get formally and bitterly screwed or some relief pops out in the next 2-3 months.
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10-09 03:59 PM
"Sorry, we are closed now." ???
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gk_2000
07-19 07:44 PM
It is indeed ugly and disgusting that anyone who talks of doing good to EB3 ends up getting reds. IV should remember that EB3 members outnumber EB2's by a vast margin and they deserve to get justice too
And it is not as if EB3's are less qualified. Most are as much or more qualified and experienced than EB2's. It is just an accident they are in EB3, as companies put them there when there was no difference in USCIS policy between the two
If I continue to see the treatment meted out to EB3's in these forums I would take the decision to quit IV..
And it is not as if EB3's are less qualified. Most are as much or more qualified and experienced than EB2's. It is just an accident they are in EB3, as companies put them there when there was no difference in USCIS policy between the two
If I continue to see the treatment meted out to EB3's in these forums I would take the decision to quit IV..
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tikka
05-23 06:03 PM
Sent IV press release to major newspapers/ news services using AILA website.
Thank you for the all the links!!
A little checklist to encourage other IV members to work on action items.
1) Funding Drive
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4618
Just made paypal contribution for $100.
2) Media Drive
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4290
Sent IV press release (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=66341) to major Newspapers/Magazines/Television Networks/News Services using AILA site http://capwiz.com/aila2/dbq/media/
3) Email to Senators
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4619
Sent to all senators in list by visiting their sites.
4) IV Fax
http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_iv_webfax&task=getContactDetails&Itemid=46
Sent.
Will work on (5) Phone Campaign (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4581) as soon as I get chance at work.
Thank you for the all the links!!
A little checklist to encourage other IV members to work on action items.
1) Funding Drive
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4618
Just made paypal contribution for $100.
2) Media Drive
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4290
Sent IV press release (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=66341) to major Newspapers/Magazines/Television Networks/News Services using AILA site http://capwiz.com/aila2/dbq/media/
3) Email to Senators
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4619
Sent to all senators in list by visiting their sites.
4) IV Fax
http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_iv_webfax&task=getContactDetails&Itemid=46
Sent.
Will work on (5) Phone Campaign (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4581) as soon as I get chance at work.
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11-21 08:53 AM
Hi Mehul,
I pray for you and your family..Hope your 485 thing for your wife gets resolved..
Believe in life!!
I pray for you and your family..Hope your 485 thing for your wife gets resolved..
Believe in life!!
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anurakt
10-25 12:49 PM
Guys,
I never beleive in polls. The questions are always framed in such a way so that max people go and answer the way the poll wants....example below
Q1 ... Do you as an American support CIR for resolving immigration issues this country faces ?
Q2 ... Do you as an American support CIR so that illegal immigrants be a Citizen of this country ?
Looks at the above two questions, I think for Q1 lot of people would say "Yes" and "No" for the Q2, so I never beleive on the polls , the questions are always framed to get the answer the poll wants.
I never beleive in polls. The questions are always framed in such a way so that max people go and answer the way the poll wants....example below
Q1 ... Do you as an American support CIR for resolving immigration issues this country faces ?
Q2 ... Do you as an American support CIR so that illegal immigrants be a Citizen of this country ?
Looks at the above two questions, I think for Q1 lot of people would say "Yes" and "No" for the Q2, so I never beleive on the polls , the questions are always framed to get the answer the poll wants.
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kuhelica2000
01-30 06:20 PM
This is plain simple illegal to secure H1B without a job. Period. There is no question of moral or ethical issues here.
Moral and ethcial issues come with legal situations; like labor usb is legal but one can question whether it is etical. Same goes with PD porting. It's legal but one might question if it is ethical.
Geeting H1 through bodyshops showing false employment is a fraud. It's high time we reported all these fraud to DOL.
Guys,
as long as there is a leeway, people do tend to take the maximum advantage of that leeway. this applies in life in every aspect. OP did the same.
being moral or ethical is not the criterion here I guess, otherwise we would all have (I,C) have been current ( if no labor subs, eb3 to eb2 conversions etc).
I feel bad too, seeing some one who landed on H1B in 2006 , got hold of a 2002 labor sub. and is enjoying GC right now(thanks to July 2007 fiasco)., and for crying out loud I have been in USA since 2001, went to school here, is working in a physical science research position, have one patent and filed for 2 more.
I consider myself to have contributed to the USA, more than the guy I gave an example of (in terms of taxes, tuition, original research, etc). But does that all matter to the other guy, when he did what he did.
that is life :D
Moral and ethcial issues come with legal situations; like labor usb is legal but one can question whether it is etical. Same goes with PD porting. It's legal but one might question if it is ethical.
Geeting H1 through bodyshops showing false employment is a fraud. It's high time we reported all these fraud to DOL.
Guys,
as long as there is a leeway, people do tend to take the maximum advantage of that leeway. this applies in life in every aspect. OP did the same.
being moral or ethical is not the criterion here I guess, otherwise we would all have (I,C) have been current ( if no labor subs, eb3 to eb2 conversions etc).
I feel bad too, seeing some one who landed on H1B in 2006 , got hold of a 2002 labor sub. and is enjoying GC right now(thanks to July 2007 fiasco)., and for crying out loud I have been in USA since 2001, went to school here, is working in a physical science research position, have one patent and filed for 2 more.
I consider myself to have contributed to the USA, more than the guy I gave an example of (in terms of taxes, tuition, original research, etc). But does that all matter to the other guy, when he did what he did.
that is life :D
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gcpool
10-03 06:01 AM
My status on CRIS has changed. No emails. Its says my approval has been sent. But nothing about the card. I spoke to the CS and they said my biometrics have to be uploaded. In the mean time can I get my passport stamped?
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Mehul
11-21 03:03 PM
And what should the person/family do right now?
Return to their country like nothing happened? What about the primary applicant's present job?
Just live here in the USA, as if nothing happened? What happens to the family if they go out of status all of a sudden?
There is no need to make the GC your only goal in life, but please don't be insensitive... there is much more to the issue than meets the eye!
Let me answer that. I am from Fiji but I was born in India so I am stuck with rest of you and for my family going back is not an option. Fiji is very hostile to indians living there so for us it's here or nowhere. May be india is an option but we have very few distant relatives in India as both of our parents has passed away.
Though it is a big shock for me and my family, I have to get over it and think about their survival after me.
My apologies if I have given the impression as GC greedy but I can understand how difficult it is for someone to understand how is life without something you can call a "Home"
Return to their country like nothing happened? What about the primary applicant's present job?
Just live here in the USA, as if nothing happened? What happens to the family if they go out of status all of a sudden?
There is no need to make the GC your only goal in life, but please don't be insensitive... there is much more to the issue than meets the eye!
Let me answer that. I am from Fiji but I was born in India so I am stuck with rest of you and for my family going back is not an option. Fiji is very hostile to indians living there so for us it's here or nowhere. May be india is an option but we have very few distant relatives in India as both of our parents has passed away.
Though it is a big shock for me and my family, I have to get over it and think about their survival after me.
My apologies if I have given the impression as GC greedy but I can understand how difficult it is for someone to understand how is life without something you can call a "Home"
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nefrateedi
09-18 10:34 AM
Hello Everyone,
My checks were cashed yesterday. My application reached NSC on July 14. My I-140 was also approved from NSC.
I got the receipt numbers from the back of the checks, however when I entered them on the USCIS website, it said that the numbers were invalid. Any idea if I need to wait another day or so before the system will accept them?
Good luck to everyone still waiting...
My checks were cashed yesterday. My application reached NSC on July 14. My I-140 was also approved from NSC.
I got the receipt numbers from the back of the checks, however when I entered them on the USCIS website, it said that the numbers were invalid. Any idea if I need to wait another day or so before the system will accept them?
Good luck to everyone still waiting...
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chi_shark
07-10 02:44 PM
i think it is very clear empirically that h1b is for a temp job and is a non-immigrant visa. it allows the employer to hire for a full time job too... whenever that intention is expressed, it should be expressed to DOL and USCIS in terms of PERM and I-140... thats that... once the h1 visa beneficiary is a beneficiary to I-140, then that person can apply for COS and avail AC21... so, i think it is clear that by itself h1 is temp. AC21 simply allows for h1 holder to extend H1 in case labor is clear and 140 is applied (labor expires in 6 months). further: ac21 allows job change after 485 app.
As per info on that page, it says clearly
"The H-1B program allows an employer to temporarily employ a foreign worker in the U.S. on a nonimmigrant basis in a specialty occupation or as a fashion model of distinguished merit and ability"
How can you say that any H-1B job is permanent? Now, you don't want to believe even the dol web page.
I have always maintained that Permanent Job is a full-time work that has no fixed end date. H1B petition always have fixed end date.
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As per info on that page, it says clearly
"The H-1B program allows an employer to temporarily employ a foreign worker in the U.S. on a nonimmigrant basis in a specialty occupation or as a fashion model of distinguished merit and ability"
How can you say that any H-1B job is permanent? Now, you don't want to believe even the dol web page.
I have always maintained that Permanent Job is a full-time work that has no fixed end date. H1B petition always have fixed end date.
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rsharma
09-24 07:51 AM
Careful my friend. Porting rules will be as tough as the rules for applying in Eb2. If you make porting difficult, you will set a higher standard for the approval of your application in Eb2 ending up with the possible rejection of yours and other Eb2 applications.
Why would you want to stop someone eligible to apply in Eb2? If someone has met all the criteria, the same criteria you had to fulfill when applying in Eb2, then what is the problem?
Consider the scenario:
Two guys (A and B) come to US in 2005, both do not have MS and experience less than 5 years. Therefore both not elligible for EB2 on 2005. They are from a retrogressed country.
A does MS and joins job in 2007, becomes eligible for EB2 and files GC on 2007.
B joins a job on 2005 that do not need MS and experience and files for EB3.
Till 2010 both of them did not get GC. But B crossed 5 years of experience and from EB3 to EB2. Now B's priority date is 2005, although he was not elligible for EB2 at that time.
Although A was elligible for EB2 in 2007 earlier than B (2010), A is pushed behind B.
SHould it be acceptable to people like A? And there is not one or two pleale like B, thousands arer doing that?
If you see my priority date you will understand I am not saying this for myself. I have a bro and friends who are facing this isssue.
Therefore EB2s who are from mid 2006 onwards will really get pushed back..
I see this porting simillar to the labor substitition.. Till it was in place it was legal although thousands bought labors and that is one main reason EB2 had retrogressed back to 2000. I predict simillar thing is happending again, people are paying money to the desi employers to file perm in EB2 again pretty soon same tertrogression will happen to EB2 I if any urgent action is not taken.
I hace passed this stage.. now its for you all to decide..
Why would you want to stop someone eligible to apply in Eb2? If someone has met all the criteria, the same criteria you had to fulfill when applying in Eb2, then what is the problem?
Consider the scenario:
Two guys (A and B) come to US in 2005, both do not have MS and experience less than 5 years. Therefore both not elligible for EB2 on 2005. They are from a retrogressed country.
A does MS and joins job in 2007, becomes eligible for EB2 and files GC on 2007.
B joins a job on 2005 that do not need MS and experience and files for EB3.
Till 2010 both of them did not get GC. But B crossed 5 years of experience and from EB3 to EB2. Now B's priority date is 2005, although he was not elligible for EB2 at that time.
Although A was elligible for EB2 in 2007 earlier than B (2010), A is pushed behind B.
SHould it be acceptable to people like A? And there is not one or two pleale like B, thousands arer doing that?
If you see my priority date you will understand I am not saying this for myself. I have a bro and friends who are facing this isssue.
Therefore EB2s who are from mid 2006 onwards will really get pushed back..
I see this porting simillar to the labor substitition.. Till it was in place it was legal although thousands bought labors and that is one main reason EB2 had retrogressed back to 2000. I predict simillar thing is happending again, people are paying money to the desi employers to file perm in EB2 again pretty soon same tertrogression will happen to EB2 I if any urgent action is not taken.
I hace passed this stage.. now its for you all to decide..
bingl
08-20 02:50 PM
Approved today !
Had raised a SR for dependent on 5th August . Got standard reply .....initial review, wait for45 days....
Infopass on 10th Aug - was told case is pre adjudicated
Opened SR on the 11th of August for primary . ....Have not yet got any reply for that.
Today got email - Card production ordered.
Had raised a SR for dependent on 5th August . Got standard reply .....initial review, wait for45 days....
Infopass on 10th Aug - was told case is pre adjudicated
Opened SR on the 11th of August for primary . ....Have not yet got any reply for that.
Today got email - Card production ordered.
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